This modpack is meant for those players who are looking for a real challenge. Lots of intermediates and resources to find and process. Big logistics problems that you will need to solve to tame the beast that is this modpack. This modpack will take a while to complete, so be ready for the long haul.
Collections of mods with tweaks to make them work together.
Transportation of the player, be it vehicles or teleporters.
Augmented or new ways of transporting materials - belts, inserters, pipes!
Trains are great, but what if they could do even more?
New ways to deal with enemies, be it attack or defense.
Armors or armor equipment.
Changes to enemies or entirely new enemies to deal with.
Map generation and terrain modification.
New Ores and resources as well as machines.
Things related to oil and other fluids.
Related to roboports and logistic robots.
Entities which interact with the circuit network.
Furnaces, assembling machines, production chains.
Changes to power production and distribution.
More than just chests.
I'll be honest with you. This wont help me. I'll be past the need one way or another by the time you could implement anything. But I've known for some time that there was a huge gap here and now it's a a very inconvenient gap. At one end we have the tier 1 heat exchanger. At the other, the 5000*C heat exchanger from SE (aside - steam can't be at 5000K, it is mostly hydrogen, oxygen and things you probably haven't heard of at that temperature)
In the middle, we have the fusion tech, which has an appropriate turbine, but no heat exchanger, as this is integrated into the reactor. It's also very big.
I need a compact reactor and the shitty 415C exchanger is not good. There should be something which fits in with the nuclear reactors and condenser turbine, which can all do ~1000C. Not just does this affect the footprint, but it's going to more than double the water usage.
I'll be past really needing this within a fortnight. But for the sake of anyone else playing, I really think you should add this.
I don't think that's likely to happen anytime soon if at all. But one of the forks of Turbines++ might give you what you're after. (I don't remember if I thought turbinesplusplusfixed or turbines-plusplus-reloaded was better though.)
Yeah, fair enough. Like I said, not so much for me, so I'm not that put out by the answer.
Also... Not sure how, but I'm NOT losing water. Instead of losing 1% water that goes through the system, I'm gaining a very small amount. Maybe 0.1%. Maybe less. I've flown my little ion ship to a few stars and to put it in a numerical way, I've put 13x40GJ through the reactor (It's much more fuel efficient than I expected perhaps because I found some shenanigans with accumulators to stop the reactor maxing out at 1000C with each fuel insertion) and I have gone from 1.0k water to 8.4k water, and consumed no ice.
The rates are saying this can't happen. Yet it is happening.
Gonna need more information before I can try looking into this. I just tested the SE condenser turbine and the K2SE advanced condenser turbine and both had water loss as appropriate.
Not sure if I can make a spoiler dropdown on this forum. So the next post will be a blueprint. Ice in the expected chest, U235 fuelcells in the expected chest. Fly to a star. Need SSI4 to be able to build it. Solar productivity 3 researched.
Not much more info than that
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I haven't been able to replicate this; it runs out of water given long enough for me. Maybe you've got another mod installed that's affecting things somehow?
If you can't replicate it, I wouldn't worry too much. I just mentioned it because I thought it was odd. Not gonna paste the settings file. I don't recommend looking into it beyond this post.
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{
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{
"name": "5dim_core",
"enabled": true
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{
"name": "5dim_nuclear",
"enabled": true
},
{
"name": "5dim_resources",
"enabled": true
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{
"name": "248k-Redux",
"enabled": true
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{
"name": "248k-Redux-graphics",
"enabled": true
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{
"name": "248k-Redux-train-graphics",
"enabled": true
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{
"name": "aai-containers",
"enabled": true
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{
"name": "aai-industry",
"enabled": true
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{
"name": "aai-signal-transmission",
"enabled": true
},
{
"name": "Adjustable-Inventory-Size",
"enabled": true
},
{
"name": "advanced-centrifuge",
"enabled": true
},
{
"name": "alien-biomes",
"enabled": true
},
{
"name": "alien-biomes-graphics",
"enabled": true
},
{
"name": "all-the-overhaul-modpack",
"enabled": true
},
{
"name": "Bio_Industries_2",
"enabled": true
},
{
"name": "bismuth",
"enabled": true
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{
"name": "boblibrary",
"enabled": true
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{
"name": "BrassTacks-Updated",
"enabled": true
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{
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"enabled": true
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"enabled": true
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{
"name": "ChangeInserterDropLane",
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{
"name": "ChemistryForYou2",
"enabled": true
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"enabled": true
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"name": "Cobalt2",
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{
"name": "dredgeworks",
"enabled": true
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"name": "dredgeworks-graphics",
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"name": "IntermediatesForYou2",
"enabled": true
},
{
"name": "jalm",
"enabled": true
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I passed this on to the SE discord, and Quezler said they'd need a save.
Okay. That's a big ask. I mean I can do it, but relative to the world at large I have shitty internet and don't know where to put 1/3 of a GB. That's just for the save file. And I don't have that exact save, I'd probably need to say here's the blueprint and give them my second to last save and modlist and say that tech needs to be researched in order to build it
I don't know what you did to test it. Can you give me an indication; suppose I'm wrong and it did eat one ice, over the course of visiting maybe 12 stars. And I have somehow seen levels rise as the steam to water ratio fell. I want to confirm that my extraordinary claim isn't because I am extraordinarily dumb. Though it did seem to rise each time on the three forays I took in it.
When you say that it was consuming water, do you mean fast enough to take from the chest? More than a stack of ice in the time you tested it?
If you delete unnecessary surfaces (anywhere but where you have the ship parked and Nauvis), that'll cut down on the save file size significantly. I'm assuming you haven't deconstructed the ship or anything like that. A save from before building it is less likely to be useful.
When you say that it was consuming water, do you mean fast enough to take from the chest? More than a stack of ice in the time you tested it?
I removed the ice from the chest after the initial topup to make sure more water didn't enter the system that way. Though I don't think that should matter. The only way that much water should be entering from the boiler is if the wire going to the tank got disconnected, which would produce other very obvious problems.
I did notice that there is a spike in water in the system between the time when the reactor temperature drops too low for the heat exchangers and when the accumulators drop low enough that more fuel is fed. But it's not nearly enough to get up to 8.4k.
Okay. I'll reconfirm my findings, and figure out a place to upload the save. Gonna be a while, my life just got busy for the next 2 weeks.
What does someone need to be able to sync my mod list correctly? I can't upload the mod folder, that's over a GB.
Unless you've unzipped and modified some of your mods, all that's needed is the save itself.
(If you have modified any mods, I would recommend retesting with only versions direct from the mod portal.)
I'd also suggest trying it both with and without ice in the chest. I don't think your setup could be overfeeding ice normally, but if something has allowed a larger than expected amount of steam to be able to build up in the system, that could produce the same apparent effect and maybe still point to an issue that needs fixing.
I have confirmed that I had 232 ice jammed into the boiler, and 232 ice remained in the boiler.
OK I got it down to 111MB. Can you recommend a place I can upload it? If this is something you have done recently, you would have a better idea than I.
I'll put the link here after, as the SE page here is locked. You'll have to pass it on. Discord is still blacklisted.
A lot of people use google drive. You just have to double-check that you've made the link usable by everyone; I haven't needed to do that myself so I don't know the exact steps involved.