Planet Crucible


Crucible is a high-pressure planet with a crafting chain built around creating metallic hydrogen.

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g Planetaris: Hyarion Compatibility

6 days ago

Hey! Thanks for the great mod.
I was just wondering if you have any plans for enhanced compatibility with Planetaris: Hyarion?
https://mods.factorio.com/mod/planetaris-hyarion
I only say this because both planets have their own type of rubies.

6 days ago

Hyarion has diamonds and upgraded lasers too, right?

It's definitely a good idea; the only issue is balance, because both rubies and diamonds are used in the high-pressure science pack. Diamonds especially are meant to be expensive on Crucible, and any alt recipe could throw off the production chain.

I'm not very familiar with Hyarion, but if you've completed both planets (i.e. gotten stable builds for all science packs), you probably have a pretty good sense of the relative costs and demands of the two mods' versions of the same items. If you can provide that context it'd definitely be helpful.

6 days ago

Sadly, I haven't played both. I just noticed when testing a modpack (Razi Protocol) that there was some item overlap.
Sorry, I can't be of more help! If I finish them both, then I'll be sure to provide some context; otherwise, maybe someone else can chime in. For what it's worth, I also posted about it on the Hyarion discussion page.

6 days ago

I played Arig, Crucible and Hyarion and i am not sure if it's a good idea balance wise. Being able to make both from just carbon kinda makes it trivial to expand science production on Arig since you can simply skip a lot of steps. You are also being able to produce large quantities of diamonds and rubies on Hyarion, which can make gem producing steps on Crucible unnecessary and instead just have them imported. So probably better leave them as separate items, or closely collaborate with Planetaris author to rebalance both mods to work seamlessly with each other.

6 days ago

Maybe some kind of small name changes when both mods are enabled? I mean I'd already considered calling it lonsdaleite instead of diamond, but decided against it because nobody's ever head of lonsdaleite (plus using a word derived from a person's name feels like it breaks some kind of fourth wall). But IRL, industrial-grade diamonds and jewelry-grade diamonds are very different, so it's not unreasonable to have two different versions of a mineral with different properties be different items. That, plus maybe a bonus synthesis recipe that uses both types as ingredients gets a slightly yield boost?

6 days ago
(updated 5 days ago)

Maybe some kind of small name changes when both mods are enabled? I mean I'd already considered calling it lonsdaleite instead of diamond, but decided against it because nobody's ever head of lonsdaleite (plus using a word derived from a person's name feels like it breaks some kind of fourth wall). But IRL, industrial-grade diamonds and jewelry-grade diamonds are very different, so it's not unreasonable to have two different versions of a mineral with different properties be different items. That, plus maybe a bonus synthesis recipe that uses both types as ingredients gets a slightly yield boost?

Tbh, i didn't know what skarn was 'till i googled it either. I thought it was some fictional reference or something.

Yeah, renaming sounds like a good idea. You can call rubies "corundum", for example. Or maybe add word "synthetic" ro both diamond and rubies, since Hyarion has raw diamonds/rubies/etc and then you need to polish them, while yours are made from carbon with pressure.

5 days ago

Tbh, i didn't know what skarn was 'till i googled it either. I thought it was some fictional reference or something.

Lol I'd never heard of it either before I started making this mod. It was the best real-world rock I could find that might plausibly have the right kinds of minerals in it for all the recipes to seem plausible enough. Honestly I was surprised to find anything.

In fact, I guess Crucible kind of does this already: emery is basically just alumina, which other mods use. That's another avenue for mod compatibility! I'll brainstorm some more options for alt names, for both ruby and diamond (synthetic is definitely a contender).

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