It won't do any belt upgrades or inserters it seems to think they have already been upgraded

Upgrades should work fine. Do you have enough materials? Are recipes researched and enabled? Is the shortcut for the mod toggled on?

hi yes the recipes are research im trying to yellow belts to red, the materials are there i have tried a small area, instead of doing the whole base, and the shortcut on the toolbar is toggled on , i have 10k gears and 1k iron plates in the system

Upload your save somewhere I'll check it.

any prefered method for downloading the save?

Dropbox is fine.

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/gs2p5gwcff5mkmaghi7e1/etc.zip?rlkey=xhqeh7emjxgzihqdtc3niku0z&st=fdb67upk&dl=0

also encounter another issue is that when placing blueprints over water causes it to give this error then crashes

The mod Quantum Fabrication (2.4.4) caused a non-recoverable error.
Please report this error to the mod author.

Error while running event quantum-fabricator::on_nth_tick(11)
quantum-fabricator/scripts/builder.lua:51: bad argument #2 of 2 to 'get_player' (string expected, got nil)
stack traceback:
[C]: in function 'get_player'
quantum-fabricator/scripts/builder.lua:51: in function 'instant_tileation'
quantum-fabricator/scripts/events.lua:504: in function <quantum-fabricator/scripts/events.lua:496>

Both issues are fixed in 2.4.5

thank you kindly <3