Extended Vanilla: Refining


An overhaul to the Vanilla ore processing while maintaining the style and simplicity of Factorio. Now compatible and balanced around Space Age. (Inspired from Minecraft's Mekanism mod.)

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g v2.4.0 - Coal Coke OP?

8 months ago

Aside from the recipe selection bug (posted elsewhere in this discussion forum), the Coal Coke appears to be overpowered AF in the early game. Coal Coke, currently, has a 1:1 relationship with regular coal, so you use 1 Coal to make 1 Coal Coke.

However, regular Coal has an energy value of 4MJ per piece, and Coal Coke has 10MJ per piece. That's s +150% increase. Is that really intentional?

8 months ago

Yep it was intentional. :)
That's why in the changelog I asked you to give feedback. :)
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8 months ago

I mean, I'm not gonna complain about an easier power method before you smother yourself in Solar, but a +150% increase seems a bit much. I do love the increased stack size, though. 50 is such an awkward stack size.

I wouldn't mind a +20%, or even +50% increase. But +150%? That's too strong without any other inputs or materials. It hurts to say this, because I really do enjoy it, but for basically no effort at all, you get so much power.

In fact, if you did 2:1 ratio, you'd still do +25%, which is significant.

8 months ago

I've opted for a nerf as you see: now you gain 2MJ of fuel power for each conversion.
That said, it is still a lot of value.
That's why the rocket fuel production via coal now is less efficient, as the fuel values got decreased, but the amount of oil required for the crafting remained the same.

8 months ago
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But I think I'll have to nerf at least the amount of coal products obtained from the advanced coal processing...
I'll play a bit on some run that I have and see how things go.
At least now we passed from a 300% efficiency increase to a 200%. xD

8 months ago

Just to confirm, this change didn't make it in 2.5.0, right? Coke is still 10 MJ in my game, and still requires just a single Coal to make.

8 months ago

Was playing with Bz foundry sorry - I didn't realize that the normal vanilla had that issue.
Fixed in 2.5.1 - Maybe - With reserve.

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Holy moly. xD

7 months ago

How does it feel now? Still a bit over powered?

7 months ago

No, the 2:1 feels quite a bit more reasonable. It's a hefty boost, but not a "lol power" boost. For now, I think it's fine.

7 months ago

K, thanks for all the feedbacks. :D

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