Deep Core Fragment Balancer

by Kaserik

Output balancing for Space Exploration's Deep Core Fragment Processing with Krastorio2, (Tiberium, Geothermal) and VeryBZ and further balancing for Tiberium Processing.

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1 year, 9 months ago
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Mining Manufacturing

i Support for Brass Tacks and If I Had A Nickel, please

1 year, 7 months ago
(updated 1 year, 7 months ago)

These are mods that Brevven himself recommends on the BZ forum thread, and they're wonderful! Please add support and balance for these two mods too 😇

Edit to add links:
https://mods.factorio.com/mod/IfNickel
https://mods.factorio.com/mod/BrassTacks

1 year, 7 months ago

Do you have recommendations for values? Testing it with VeryBZ, Space Exploration and Krastorio 2 may take a while. ^^'

1 year, 7 months ago
(updated 1 year, 7 months ago)

Hmm, I haven't gotten very far myself yet, but brass and therefore zinc is at least heavily needed. Nickel has also started becoming more relevant. But I haven't even started blue tech yet, so by the time core mining actually starts to make sense it might be completely different...

I don't know if there's a way to @ mention the author and ask directly? @planetfall

Edit: Guess not, but I'll make a new thread on Brass Tacks and link to this one.

Edit MK2: https://mods.factorio.com/mod/BrassTacks/discussion/64118346f4660263c881bfa1

1 year, 7 months ago

Well I suppose something is better than nothing, and judging purely by the autoplace values, which according to iron and copper ore seems to be based on base_density, zinc base_density = 4, and nickel base_density = mods["aai-industry"] and 6 or 5.

1 year, 6 months ago

Hi sorry I've sort of fallen off the modding train for the past several months but I think the worst of the Impending Life Events are past now (knock on wood).

I have zinc and nickel generating at about half the overall amount as iron (but it's complicated). For a vanilla game this is about right for nickel and probably a bit too much for zinc. I'm not super familiar with how K2/SE + vBZ mods goes and all my intuitions for this are based around the base game, so for instance messing with how many iron plates are needed for steel like Krastorio does is going to throw the ratio off.

Zinc is universally needed less than copper since the two things that use it by default (brass and batteries) use equal amounts of zinc and copper but copper is still needed in all the usual places. (not true of batteries if you have both lead and nickel but batteries are also pretty marginal in terms of how much of your total resource usage they represent.) If you're decreasing the copper yield to compensate for BZ mods decreasing the amount of copper in electronics, consider reducing it by less with BT since brass is needed for things like gears that don't normally need copper at all. Extra intermediates adds a couple recipes that need zinc without copper but they aren't needed in nearly the numbers that brass or copper are so they don't really cancel out the general rule.

Nickel has higher base_density with AAI because the AAI electric motors are significantly more expensive than my motors and I wanted to keep the resource ratio about the same. Extra nickel intermediates mostly just stuff more motors into things, at which point it's probably closer to 60-75% of iron especially if you factor in other iron being replaced in recipes. But nickel is generally more heavily needed for infrastructure than for science, especially with K2, so it depends on what general sort of factory activity you're basing the ratios around.

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