Crushing Industry


Add early-game crusher variants for crushing sand to smelt into glass, and crushing ore and coal for more efficient smelting

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Mining Manufacturing

g Potential Conflict with Cerys

3 months ago

I ran into an issue on my current modded play through on cerys, I was unable to craft lubricant from carbon b/c I was not allowed to crush asteroids on cerys. Doing some testing I was able to reproduce this issue with just cerys and crushing industry being installed and upon removing crushing industry the ability to crush asteroids was returned to cerys.

It seems that crushing industry updates the asteroid recipes to need 255K+ planet temp but cerys is 251k so the recipes aren't allowed. At min the carbonic asteroid crushing should be allowed on cerys.

I was using Cerys 2.13.8, SA 2.0.47 and CI 0.41 when this issue was found.

3 months ago

Hi Spammaps! Crushing Industry does not modify the surface conditions for any crushing recipes, it's likely another planet mod that's making that change. Unless you've disabled it, you can look at the list of mod names underneath the name of the recipe to see what mods affect a recipe. Regardless, there is also another way to produce carbon on Cerys which is considerably easier to achieve. I would suggest taking a look at the factoriopedia entry for Carbon and take a look at the alternative recipes :)

3 months ago

Rechecking this issue today and with the most current forms of the mods the surface conditions that restrict the crushing recipes are different but still prevent crushing carbonic asteroids on cerys. Curiously this is not an issue with just cerys or just crushing industry only when the two are combined.

Note, in the previous comment I mention that I tested for other mod interactions by limiting my mods only to these two (and the respective dependencies) where the problem exists with CI and not without. Seemed like a reasonable starting point to mention to CI since that mods introduction created the surface conditions onto the recipes. Very weird that the existence of CI changes how cerys modifies existing recipes surface conditions.

As for other carbon creation options we do have four available in the base cerys+CI giving us two crushing options which are oddly not available on the cerys surface, you have spoilage to carbon (no spoilage available on the surface and can't drop items to the surface until utility science hence the need for carbon > lubricant recipe) and coal + sulfuric acid to carbon which has a similar problem as the spoilage to carbon since no coal exists on cerys. The moons existing crushers clearly hint towards the solution of using the passing asteroids. Now even without any additional mods you can work around this problem and limp to getting resources dropped in and with other mods people very likely have a variety of ways to circumvent asteroid crushing weirdness. It just feels really weird that the existing crushers can exist in state where they only have access to the asteroid rerolling recipes (when using Cerys 2.13.8, SA 2.0.47 and CI 0.41) or like todays situation where they can access all the asteroid recipes excepts for carbonic crushing (when using Cerys 2.16.11, SA 2.0.55 and CI 0.43).

3 months ago

Hmmm, yeah that's definitely unusual, I'll take a look later to see why crushing for carbonic asteroids is broken, thank you for the details and narrowing it down to just these 2

3 months ago

Wanted to let you know that I have same issue and came to same conclusion about conflict of these 2 mods

2 months ago

Hiya! Yeah this is on my radar again, I'll be making a fix for this tomorrow after talking with Cerys' developer thesixthroc since it's a balance-related conflict

2 months ago

Is this still being looked at? This makes cerys more difficult. I think it also causes issues with gleba if your using wooden industries and astroponics.

2 months ago

I did a bit more digging at the setup for this issue today. The conflict with cerys seems to be from some process in the cerys mod that alters surface conditions to prevent new recipes from completely trivializing the moons progress.

The new bit of info is that if you turn off the crushing causes byproducts in mod settings this issue doesn't come up at all for cerys. It seems that the ability to get stone from the other asteroids, then get coal from the stone and then get carbon from the coal flags the carbonic asteroid processing as too good in comparison and alters the surface conditions such that they can't be done on cerys.

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