Spaceblock


Who wants to go planetside? It's dirty and disgusting, doesn't support engineer life, and has an unpleasant smell. Why not instead grow the factory from orbit?

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Factorio: Space Age Icon Space Age Mod
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g Asteroid productivity

16 days ago

Asteroid productivity 11 costs 6050 red science instead of normal 17k of RGBPYWAgri

16 days ago

Yes, asteroid productivity is cheaper because its role is equivalent to setting up a new ore mine.
That said, it's cost should be exponential (50 x T x T).

16 days ago

I highly disagree Asteroid productivity is not equivalent to Mining productivity my reasoning is:

  • mining productivity is infinite while asteroid productivity has no effect after lvl 30 it is expensive because it is way more powerful than mining productivity boosting production by letting you catch less asteroids
  • asteroids are infinite by nature to increse production you need to catch more(make more and better mines) not refine them better that would be equivalent to adding smelting productivity to plates
    -sciencepack cost is insane 6k reds instead of 17k of all needed for a lvl 11/30 is almost free
    -while playing I never once had shortages of vanilla asteroids after unlocking thrusters and now that you added productivity for your asteroids I can do 120 crafted spm at 30km/h while using at most 130 metalic chunks/min(highest demand due to my unrelated to science 900/m uranium usage as I throw out 2/3 of raw metals from that process)
    This means I can do 660spm at 30km/h while visiting all inner planets and I have enought overhead to gamble for rare modules and buildings plus a 4x4nuclear reactor for power

In conclusion based on how poorly my platform is designed if someone can't get resources for asteroid productivity research that suggests a grave error in platforms designand is not a justification for making this research free

You should keep vanilla research, it is very easy to reach lvl 20 and lvl 30 is realistic. If it was an infinite tech I could be convinced but it is not for a good reason.

Think about it you need only 472750 red science to max out this tech
You need 406000 of RGBP to get lvl 30mining productivity I'll let you do the math on raw cost between them

This could be a setting for easy mode but it is gamebreaking as it is

16 days ago

No no, not mining productivity, it fills the roll of additional mining outposts.
Also I didn't realise it also capped at 300%, although I guess that makes sense.

16 days ago

Yea good point one platform has its limits but that's all the more reason to keep the cost or you'll max it too fast.

You could stage it. Start from mining productivity science packs and go all the way to prometium adding a new science pack every few levels while keeping cost at 1000*T all the time.

Personaly I'd keep vanilla and will cut out your change for myself. You could make it an option Vanilla/staged asteroid productivity toggle

16 days ago

I'll be honest I already considered starting over, getting thruster and vulcanus and cranking up science cost to 10x or more just to slow down progression since rn there is little reason to make more that 2/s before unlocking everything and going for space casino to get legendaries but first I want to see where you go with the mod like you sure give a lot of wood from asteroids it's the best early game coal source being outclassed only by gleba plactic

16 days ago

Personally I thought the wood was a good touch? It's only available at Nauvis, or with astroponics. So it's a boost while you're stuck in orbit, but once you can move you either have to detour to pick up more, or build a wood farm.

16 days ago

I'm not sure and didn't check but it feels like nauvis wood is now the most efficient source of coal
If you gave 1 wood per chunk, greenhouse wood would make sense it's just too expensive to make compared to nauvis wood rates.
That being said currently I fly Vulcanys->Gleba->Fulgora on a loop since that gives more carbon asteroids+seeds than route via nauvis and will switch to Vulcanus->Aquilo->Fulgora once I can be bothered to slap on some rockets

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