Thanks again.
I am on latest stable, 1.1.69 (build 60061, win64).
Weirdly, I created a fresh map again to reproduce the problem and it seems to be working fine, but still same weird behavior in my other map.
v4.testmap is where it's acting weird
v4.test is new map where it's working correctly
https://easyupload.io/m/g7aiav
I think you can see the mods from the save file, but I'm not sure how to give you a list of mods I have installed. Is there an easy way? It's quite a few but mainly angels+bobs stuff.