Nuclear Science Rebalanced

by NOiZE

A rebalance for Atan's Nuclear Science mod that adjusts the nuclear science pack recipe, atom forge recipe, and related technology costs.

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3 days ago
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i [resolved]Bad balancing

4 days ago

Hi there. While the rebalanced recipe looks better compared to the original, the science costs are greatly increased compared to the unblanced technologies. You somehow missed that the original mod doesn't use the same numbers for the different science packs. Kovarex only needs 50 nuclear science packs but 1000 of the other packs. That's just 25 crafts. With your mod however, It's 1500 nuclear science packs (1500 crafts). So you need 60 times the SPM for the same research speed.

The result is: Yes, your mod rebalances, but it gets way worse compared to the orinigal mod. You should rethink the science cost and probably stick to the original idea of having different costs per science pack.

4 days ago
(updated 4 days ago)

Hey cackling.fiend,
Thanks your feedback.
While in the originasl nuclear science mod the packs are heavy limited by U235, that author choose to use limited crafts of the nuclear science pack for the kovarex enrichment. so indeed as you state 25 crafts for the nuclear science pack, but 500 crafts for the blue one, and 1000 for red and green and 250 for the space science. Therefore your argument for the 60 times the SPM only applies on the nuclear science. and not for the other sciences anyway.

I tried to made the nuclear science pack more in line with normal science packs, as its no longer restricted by U235, and you can basically immediately start making this pack. And it is not bottlenecked by U235 like in the original mod. But re-evaluating my numbers did reveal:

The 1500 number comes from the base game, which i might have mistakenly chosen opposed to 1000 which is the number for vanilla space age. So I will consider that.
Also I did some further calculation and indeed perhaps its a bit too pricy in terms of the huge amount of throughput you need for even 50 SPM:
it would require 5000 Uranium ore per minute right now, and like 120 centrifuges or to support this whole process.

Therefore I'm thinking of the following changes:
- 2 U238 instead of 10 for 1 nuclear science pack
- Kovarex cost to 1000, just like space age vanilla

That way with 50 SPM it would take 20 mins to research kovarex enrichemnt.

50 SPM (recipe: 2× U-238 → 1 science pack)

Metric Centrifuge (speed 1, 0% prod) Atom Forge (speed 2, +50% prod)
U-238 needed 100 / min 100 / min
Uranium processing throughput per machine 4.965 U-238/min 14.895 U-238/min
Machines for uranium processing 21 7
Science pack throughput per machine 3 packs/min 9 packs/min
Machines for science pack crafting 17 6
Total machines (processing + crafting) 38 13
Uranium ore required ≈ 1,007 ore/min ≈ 671 ore/min
Electric mining drills 68 45
Sulfuric acid for mining ≈ 1,007 acid/min ≈ 671 acid/min
4 days ago
(updated 4 days ago)

Sounds good. We are playing on 20x science cost and are aiming for 350 SPM. Since there are not many technologies with nuclear science, I think 50 SPM with a buffer is still enough.

3 days ago

It's now updated with the idea explained above.

3 days ago

Nice, we'll give it another try.

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